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I'm going to try moving the MC out of the way tonight, I guess my main problem is that the pipe wall is so close to the bolt head that I can't get a socket or boxed end wrench in there, and the tip spread of the open end wrench is just rounding out the bolt. Also I thoroughly soaked all hardware with PB blaster the day before I started. I think I'll buy a crap socket to grind thinner also. Also, these are backyard built Downpipes with one being about 1 inch longer than the other so not planning to sell
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